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	<description>Making good bicycle rides ever since 1992.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Good bicycle route marking by DamJamJim</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/02/13/good-bicycle-route-marking/comment-page-1/#comment-6541</link>
		<dc:creator>DamJamJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave. Route marking takes way more effort than people realize just because of having to be vigilant about unexpected road construction. There&#039;s also sabotage like we had at Tulsa Tough this year. It&#039;s a good idea to do a last minute sweep to try and fix anything that&#039;s been messed with, but when you&#039;re talking about 3-4 routes from 25 -100 miles, even sweeping is a big volunteer effort.

What are your Route Marking Guidelines and what does your city county government want from you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave. Route marking takes way more effort than people realize just because of having to be vigilant about unexpected road construction. There&#8217;s also sabotage like we had at Tulsa Tough this year. It&#8217;s a good idea to do a last minute sweep to try and fix anything that&#8217;s been messed with, but when you&#8217;re talking about 3-4 routes from 25 -100 miles, even sweeping is a big volunteer effort.</p>
<p>What are your Route Marking Guidelines and what does your city county government want from you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good bicycle route marking by Dave Christiano</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/02/13/good-bicycle-route-marking/comment-page-1/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Christiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 02:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good page! We&#039;re just up I-44 in Springfield. Springbike has formally adopted Route Marking Guidelines in part to be proactive to city/county government. We don&#039;t want riders to get lost but we have to be realistic with the size our markings. Locals don&#039;t like &quot;their&quot; roads painted. I agree completely that small marks will be seen if they are clean and consistent. We also mark every turn after the turn within sight just in case (it happens!) that the county decides to pave over our marks a day or two before the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good page! We&#8217;re just up I-44 in Springfield. Springbike has formally adopted Route Marking Guidelines in part to be proactive to city/county government. We don&#8217;t want riders to get lost but we have to be realistic with the size our markings. Locals don&#8217;t like &#8220;their&#8221; roads painted. I agree completely that small marks will be seen if they are clean and consistent. We also mark every turn after the turn within sight just in case (it happens!) that the county decides to pave over our marks a day or two before the ride.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Planning New Rides for 2011 at Saint Francis Tulsa Tough! by Buck</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2011/02/01/planning-tulsa-tough-new-rides-for-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-5953</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live N. of Sand Springs off of Hwy 97 and Shellcreek road. I would love to say thank you for all of the bikes on Hwy 97 Saturday. We had a death in the family, and everyone met at out house, and had a hard time getting there because of all the bikes blocking the road. Everyone who came in commented about being &quot;stuck&quot; behind the bikes because there are no SAFE areas to pass and the bikes refuse to move over.

Also, I would like to thank all of the riders for throwing down your plastic water and sport drink bottles on the side of the road.It is a beautiful sight to see, you really are endearing yourself to our community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live N. of Sand Springs off of Hwy 97 and Shellcreek road. I would love to say thank you for all of the bikes on Hwy 97 Saturday. We had a death in the family, and everyone met at out house, and had a hard time getting there because of all the bikes blocking the road. Everyone who came in commented about being &#8220;stuck&#8221; behind the bikes because there are no SAFE areas to pass and the bikes refuse to move over.</p>
<p>Also, I would like to thank all of the riders for throwing down your plastic water and sport drink bottles on the side of the road.It is a beautiful sight to see, you really are endearing yourself to our community.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good bicycle route marking by Randy Pickard</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/02/13/good-bicycle-route-marking/comment-page-1/#comment-5209</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally biased, because I sell their product, but I think the marking paint from Fox Valley Systems offers performance that is equal to Rustoleum at a better price. For marking a course 1-3 weeks before and event, I agree that marking paint is the way to go. However, the Fox Valley marking chalk often lasts for weeks if: 1) it is applied to a dry surface; 2) is not rained on by a torrential downpour, and 3) is not exposed to high numbers of tires running over it. Still, it would be risky to use chalk if marking a course a week or more before the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally biased, because I sell their product, but I think the marking paint from Fox Valley Systems offers performance that is equal to Rustoleum at a better price. For marking a course 1-3 weeks before and event, I agree that marking paint is the way to go. However, the Fox Valley marking chalk often lasts for weeks if: 1) it is applied to a dry surface; 2) is not rained on by a torrential downpour, and 3) is not exposed to high numbers of tires running over it. Still, it would be risky to use chalk if marking a course a week or more before the event.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pack Mentality by Buck</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/04/04/pack-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-3668</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is, why do you want to ride in an area where you know the locals dont want you there? You are on the narrow 2 lane curvy road, where it is dangerous to try to pass you, at a time when we are trying to get home and pick our families up to go to Church without being late. As I stated in an earlier post 3-4 years ago you guys werent a problem, you would ride to the side , you would leave us room to get around you and you were courteous. But in the last 3 years that has changed DRAMATICALLY. The cyclist are rude to the locals, its as if you dare us to hit you. Just because you have a right to be on that narrow, curvy , unsafe road full of blindspots, doesnt mean that it is the safe or the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is, why do you want to ride in an area where you know the locals dont want you there? You are on the narrow 2 lane curvy road, where it is dangerous to try to pass you, at a time when we are trying to get home and pick our families up to go to Church without being late. As I stated in an earlier post 3-4 years ago you guys werent a problem, you would ride to the side , you would leave us room to get around you and you were courteous. But in the last 3 years that has changed DRAMATICALLY. The cyclist are rude to the locals, its as if you dare us to hit you. Just because you have a right to be on that narrow, curvy , unsafe road full of blindspots, doesnt mean that it is the safe or the right thing to do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pack Mentality by Jim</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/04/04/pack-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-3585</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buck, you&#039;ve hit squarely on the point of my article. We bicyclists have been known to preach sharing the road and then turn right around and act like a pack of undisciplined children. That happens sometimes when people of like minds of any activity get together and do their thing. 

If you read further, I say, &quot;Sharing is an equal opportunity action. It means coexisting not dominating.&quot; I also say, &quot;I’m talking about acknowledging that others also have equal rights to the road and exercising some common courtesy.&quot;

The whole point of the article is in the last paragraph where I suggest that we should all work harder to practice the &quot;art of civility.&quot;

But you and I both know that neither of us can change the behavior of others. All we can do is try to find constructive ways to let our opinions be known and continue to function together in community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buck, you&#8217;ve hit squarely on the point of my article. We bicyclists have been known to preach sharing the road and then turn right around and act like a pack of undisciplined children. That happens sometimes when people of like minds of any activity get together and do their thing. </p>
<p>If you read further, I say, &#8220;Sharing is an equal opportunity action. It means coexisting not dominating.&#8221; I also say, &#8220;I’m talking about acknowledging that others also have equal rights to the road and exercising some common courtesy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The whole point of the article is in the last paragraph where I suggest that we should all work harder to practice the &#8220;art of civility.&#8221;</p>
<p>But you and I both know that neither of us can change the behavior of others. All we can do is try to find constructive ways to let our opinions be known and continue to function together in community.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pack Mentality by Buck</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/04/04/pack-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-3584</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what you stated in the article is why we dont want you riding in our area here is your quote 
&quot;On our normal daily rides, it’s pretty easy to get away with loose interpretations of law – rolling through traffic signals, riding more than two abreast, crossing the centerline.

try tightening up your interpretations and just maybe you would have less opposition from the people who live in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what you stated in the article is why we dont want you riding in our area here is your quote<br />
&#8220;On our normal daily rides, it’s pretty easy to get away with loose interpretations of law – rolling through traffic signals, riding more than two abreast, crossing the centerline.</p>
<p>try tightening up your interpretations and just maybe you would have less opposition from the people who live in the area.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Planning New Rides for 2011 at Saint Francis Tulsa Tough! by Buck</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2011/02/01/planning-tulsa-tough-new-rides-for-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-3583</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its narrow and filled with blind spots that makes it dangerous for cyclist and vehicle traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its narrow and filled with blind spots that makes it dangerous for cyclist and vehicle traffic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pack Mentality by Buck</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2009/04/04/pack-mentality/comment-page-1/#comment-3582</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, you guys have been riding our roads for several years and it has never been a problem. EXCEPT for the last TWO years. It seems that the riders have gotten more and more arrogant with the &quot;pack&quot; mentality. I have witnessed them run stop signs and make oncoming traffic brake hard to avoid hitting a rider. I have seen on several occasions the pack riding 4, 5 and 6 abreast. We would not have a problem with you guys if you would also return the respect that you demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, you guys have been riding our roads for several years and it has never been a problem. EXCEPT for the last TWO years. It seems that the riders have gotten more and more arrogant with the &#8220;pack&#8221; mentality. I have witnessed them run stop signs and make oncoming traffic brake hard to avoid hitting a rider. I have seen on several occasions the pack riding 4, 5 and 6 abreast. We would not have a problem with you guys if you would also return the respect that you demand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Planning New Rides for 2011 at Saint Francis Tulsa Tough! by DamJamJim</title>
		<link>http://roadpainter.com/2011/02/01/planning-tulsa-tough-new-rides-for-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-3411</link>
		<dc:creator>DamJamJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? Is there construction up there or some other situation you&#039;d like us to know about that would make it unsafe for cyclists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? Is there construction up there or some other situation you&#8217;d like us to know about that would make it unsafe for cyclists?</p>
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